The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

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This isn’t just a computer bug. It’s a scandal.
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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
Read about Boeing's efforts to get the 737 Max reinstated for flight here: www.vox.com/2019/4/5/18296646/boeing-737-max-mcas-software-update
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  1. Libertiner
    Libertiner
    2 godzin temu

    Well then the CEO of Boeing killed a lot of people, and murders go to jail or get executed

  2. George Washington Bush
    George Washington Bush
    6 godzin temu

    Those engineers had to go to prison as murderers !

  3. mage
    mage
    9 godzin temu

    (too much) *money is the root of all evil*

  4. Orapeleng Tawana
    Orapeleng Tawana
    9 godzin temu

    so people were killed by software? wooow

  5. Constandinos Pappas
    Constandinos Pappas
    10 godzin temu

    Surely enough, Boeing have serious avionics engineers in their ranks. And surely enough, these engineers must have advised those above that there was this risk that should be taken into account. Boeing decided to go ahead, KNOWING they were risking lives. If that is not criminal, I don't know what is. We're not talking about manslaughter here.

  6. Constandinos Pappas
    Constandinos Pappas
    11 godzin temu

    Since Boeing says it only needs some "software upgrade to fix the problem" (yeah, right), it sounds as if we're talking about a small technical problem. Loss of life? Who cares, we're insured, aren't we...? We'll fix this minor problem and everyone will be happy! I would like to see the CEO and all the chain of decision makers of theirs, to be aboard the first "fixed" 737 MAX, up in the air. Will they do it??? Of course not. If the matter was not so tragic, I would be LMAO! After everything about the 737 MAX has been said so far, what stays in people's minds is not about this plane alone; people will wonder which else of their planes can be trusted now. Bottom line: Boeing has managed to irreparably damage its name. For a few bucks...

  7. Chuck You
    Chuck You
    15 godzin temu

    Free vacation for all demonrat politicians, destination Dominican Republic, flights will be on 737 Max. You’re going to love it, be ready to travel before the 2020 elections. And take your illegals with you.

  8. Mr Coffee Lover SumBtch
    Mr Coffee Lover SumBtch
    17 godzin temu

    For the entire A320 family, 118 aviation accidents and incidents have occurred (the latest one being Afriqiyah Airways Flight 209 on 23 Dec 2016),[1] including 35 hull loss accidents (the last one being EgyptAir Flight 804 on 19 May 2016),[2] and a total of 1393 fatalities in 17 fatal accidents (the most recent being EgyptAir Flight 804).[3]

  9. OGDC
    OGDC
    18 godzin temu

    Boeing should be sued.

  10. Alisya Thahira
    Alisya Thahira
    21 godzinę temu

    boeing *cancelled*

  11. dessnom
    dessnom
    22 godzin temu

    i hope the plane after the Boeing nma/797 will be a proper successor to the Boeing 737 it should have a modernized version of the 737 cockpit it should be as high of the ground as the a320 or 757 composite construction should be used engines should be the cmf leap 1b or similar engine enough range to go from the west coast of Europe to the west coast of america there should be 5 models 7107-6, 7107-7, 7107-8, 7107-9 and 7107-10 -6 would replace the 737-700 -7 would replace the max 7 -8 would replace the max 8, -800 and -900 -9 would replace the max 9 and -900 er -10 would replace the max 10

  12. ANTI SALAM-SALAMAN CLUB
    ANTI SALAM-SALAMAN CLUB
    22 godzin temu

    BOEING kill my fella...

  13. vicki hindermyer
    vicki hindermyer
    Dzień temu

    Russians did it, RUSSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. John Kurtz
    John Kurtz
    Dzień temu

    Why didn't t Boeing put longer landing gear on the Max so the new engines would fit with no problem .

    1. wan nuur
      wan nuur
      23 godzin temu

      John Kurtz gravity point dude...hw do u stabilize the giant bird by longer d lnding gear?

  15. Nolan The dab king
    Nolan The dab king
    Dzień temu

    How about boeing just remove the MCAS all together

  16. Scott Wagley
    Scott Wagley
    Dzień temu

    My question is why did so many flights not have any issues and then these two crashed?

  17. Kabin Raj Luitel
    Kabin Raj Luitel
    Dzień temu

    Boeing 737 max should be banned forever!!!

  18. Leon Ledergerber
    Leon Ledergerber
    Dzień temu

    I hope there will be Justice for this, hundreds of People died, why? Because they wanted to compete, and didnt mention the MCAS.

  19. Leon Ledergerber
    Leon Ledergerber
    Dzień temu

    Unacceptable.

  20. Gungung Gadung
    Gungung Gadung
    Dzień temu

    Whoopsie.

  21. Igor Dubrovski
    Igor Dubrovski
    Dzień temu

    Boeing please no more easter eggs in your modern avionics and navigation and flight control systems. Lets be clear - if it's not in the manual it's a major flaw and needs to be removed / documented asap.

  22. Joe Barrett
    Joe Barrett
    Dzień temu

    Excellent video. Thank you

  23. Petsto
    Petsto
    Dzień temu

    To be clear Airbus also has every automatation you can possible Imagen. But as far i know it will always tell the pilots exactly what it does (and why) and secondly with few buttons you can turn off all automatation. (regardless to say that the plane is then much more difficult to fly)

  24. Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Dzień temu

    Nothing about centre of gravity?

  25. Ehtu Ehtu Niges
    Ehtu Ehtu Niges
    Dzień temu

    🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  26. Zahid Khurshid
    Zahid Khurshid
    Dzień temu

    Boeing needs to be shutdown immediately. More 300 people died what else is it gonna take to stop these guys from making planes. What's even more concerning is that FAA was letting Boeing certify their own planes. Unreal. Both should legal consequences one of them being complete shut down of Boeing.

    1. Black
      Black
      Dzień temu

      You lost me at "Boeing needs to be shutdown immediately".

  27. Bail 10k
    Bail 10k
    Dzień temu

    who else has flown on one of these 737 max?? scary.

  28. A D
    A D
    Dzień temu

    This Boeing is about to get going

  29. Weldon Young
    Weldon Young
    Dzień temu

    OK, so the Boeing 737 Max has the same type rating as other Boeing 737s. The pilots fly it just like any other 737. That's problem number ONE. NOW the poor pilots are in the Boeing 737 Max when MCAS takes control. Here is where poor design comes in: pilots not informed; no reliance on multiple sensor input; & Boeing know about this problem about a year before the Ethiopian crash. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO CERTIFY A FIT ???

  30. That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000
    That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000
    Dzień temu

    Or, I dunno... MAKE TALLER LANDING GEARS.

  31. Victor Gonzalez
    Victor Gonzalez
    2 dni temu

    very well done the low level of experience of the crews should have been mention key factor

  32. Natsumei
    Natsumei
    2 dni temu

    yeah nice job boeing, you use software instead of reengineering. you know, software..the thing that can be easily hacked/changed/tampered *sigh

  33. yano agustino
    yano agustino
    2 dni temu

    Tbh, after those 2 boeing's accidents I always checked out the plane that I will board first, is it boeing or airbus (of course I prefer airbus rn)

    1. Razvan Sindilaru
      Razvan Sindilaru
      Dzień temu

      Man b 737 max is the only boeing bad plane....... for example the 777. It's one of the mort safest plane man or the 787

  34. EagleOneoOne
    EagleOneoOne
    2 dni temu

    Gremlins, bro. Totally gremlins.

  35. Zyvren 13
    Zyvren 13
    2 dni temu

    FAA's certification of this 737 max 8 planes, proves that their relationship with BOEING is not sufficiently strict. Pilots were unaware of this manuevering characteristic augmentation system. Its not even mentioned on their checklist since the checklist is the same as the old 737.

  36. muhammad hamzah
    muhammad hamzah
    2 dni temu

    The real reason: American people ambition, greed, and stupidity

  37. Beatrice Noel
    Beatrice Noel
    2 dni temu

    Greed man... GREED!!!

  38. Mathias Hermon
    Mathias Hermon
    2 dni temu

    This makes me very sad. I never thought Boeing would mess up like this…

  39. Alan Caldoza
    Alan Caldoza
    2 dni temu

    Building a new one to behave like the old one. Then what kind of mindset is that for Boeing.. If that's their goal then why build a new one rather than continue building an old one. Airbus building the A321 but retains the old proven A320 design with minor upgrade but not on its flught computers.

    1. Jamenator1
      Jamenator1
      2 dni temu

      Actually airbus does upgrade the flight control software, some of them are fairly substantial changes. Airbus designed the FBW to make the handling of all their FBW aircraft, from the A318 to the A380, as close to each other as possible as this reduces training costs due to the aircraft behaving similarly to each other. Its a good bet that airbus would have also tweaked the FBW on the A320NEO to accommodate for the much larger engines. Even aircraft already in service can receive upgrades to the FBW

  40. Alan Caldoza
    Alan Caldoza
    2 dni temu

    Its electronics I believe is sabotage by extremist by getting into subcontractor companies. Its better that way than planting a device on planes

  41. Jan Verboven
    Jan Verboven
    2 dni temu

    The BIG problem is - beyond the HEAVY loss of life, which will leave the families on the ground bereaved for their the rest of their lives, BOEING seems untouchable - too BIG to fail.

  42. Bruce Bedlam
    Bruce Bedlam
    3 dni temu

    Thanks for telling us the truth.

  43. WTF STUDIO INC.
    WTF STUDIO INC.
    3 dni temu

    Greedy effing people!!! No regards to human life!!!

  44. sugas riyanto
    sugas riyanto
    3 dni temu

    airbus is better

  45. kalyan raghavan
    kalyan raghavan
    3 dni temu

    Sir, hats off to you. For bringing out a best and investigative video on Max Boeing. It was really a careless and casual attitude, which took the lives of more than 400 passengers. Boeing should take passengers safety as top priority absolutely and shouldn't care about fuel consumption, competitor activities, and cost savings.

  46. [Insert Name]
    [Insert Name]
    3 dni temu

    In a nutshell: People died of money

  47. Nehemiah Scudder
    Nehemiah Scudder
    3 dni temu

    The 737 Max crashed *twice* because Boing executives tried to cover up their slapdash design and manufacturing processes after the first crash. It crashed the first time because the FAA decided to give Boing a free pass so that a European company did not gain a commercial advantage over an American company, sacrificing their reputation as a competent air safety body on the altar of "American exceptionalism" All the phrase "American exceptionalism" means now is "Buy anything *except American"* whenever possible.

  48. Technology and Innovation
    Technology and Innovation
    3 dni temu

    With recent orders placed by American Airlines with Airbus, every American in fact every passenger should avoid this airplane.

  49. Technology and Innovation
    Technology and Innovation
    3 dni temu

    ex BOEING: BOEING needs to come clean. By placing the engine higher causes the air dynamics around the fuselage to behave differently than before, it creates turbulence immediate to the sensors causing the hardware to misinterpret input. So hardware is not malfunctioning but characteristics of the design change is causing the catastrophic failure. It is more severe than what they are claiming in the media. A pilot when working at night (instrument flying) will need to be more cautious and better trained then today to fly safely. Inevitably no matter what BOEING states this aircraft will have more problems then prior models. Boeing is gambling with people's lives to fatten its pocket. BOEING thinks it can wash its hand from every incident in future by claiming that it was pilots error and therefore no blame can be attributed to the company ... as they did soon after the two crashes.

  50. NPC AFRO
    NPC AFRO
    3 dni temu

    *Better Flight on A320*

  51. Shawn Rebello
    Shawn Rebello
    3 dni temu

    Wouldn't it have been easier to simply raise the height of the aircraft by installing taller landing gear? The engines could then have been accommodated under the wing I suppose.

    1. Giuseppe Cochi
      Giuseppe Cochi
      3 dni temu

      Sorry, that was bodged up job

    2. Giuseppe Cochi
      Giuseppe Cochi
      3 dni temu

      It comes back to the fact that this aircraft fuselage is the same as the original 100 series, if they had extended the length of the main landing gear it would not be able to fit into the existing fuselage undercarriage bay so retraction would be impossible, hence the bodied up job of moving the engine forward and up

  52. Gary Looper
    Gary Looper
    3 dni temu

    Simple fact is that as "Flawed" as the Max may or may not be, BOTH CRASHES WERE PILOT ERROR! The first because the exact plane that crashed had the error the previous day and the crew solved the problem by turning off the malfunctioning equipment, Therefore the crew knew how to handle the error. The second because the crew fixed the problem in the air by turning off the malfunctioning equipment and then turned the malfunctioning equipment back on!

  53. HEED
    HEED
    4 dni temu

    and the corruption continues. They didn't anything to solve the problem. updating the software does not make the plane safe. I will never fly on a boeing 737 .

  54. Alison Mihailovich
    Alison Mihailovich
    4 dni temu

    Russian made Super Jet - 100 is better and cheaper ! Irish City Jet fly them now . Its good

  55. Bernievids
    Bernievids
    4 dni temu

    I hope this is true.

  56. prolazy55 lazlaz
    prolazy55 lazlaz
    4 dni temu

    I feel bad

  57. Nonya Busi
    Nonya Busi
    4 dni temu

    Boeing needs in prison.

  58. Eric Rojo
    Eric Rojo
    4 dni temu

    Isn't it ironic that unbridled free enterprise and competition is touted as the solution to bad design decisions and poor quality products (at least in the U.S.). This is one instance where that is not the case.

  59. MF SF
    MF SF
    4 dni temu

    ...and who from Boeing will make jail time for keeping secret that tiny insignificant detail? Sorry... naive question... And the money wins 👌

  60. Karen Van Vuuren
    Karen Van Vuuren
    4 dni temu

    Very impressive video!

  61. Daniel
    Daniel
    4 dni temu

    It was possible to rush it, because boeing is USA...and USA has da power :)

  62. Paul Williams
    Paul Williams
    4 dni temu

    Ř

  63. Sleepy
    Sleepy
    4 dni temu

    As much as people say competition is an inevitable good that comes out of capitalism, the free market naturally moves towards monopolies or singular entities with large marketshare because generally it costs way less for the companies and consumers. Having to only train one pilot to fly two different planes is easier than learning 8. And it costs less for the airline

  64. Chris Kingston
    Chris Kingston
    4 dni temu

    Take a train next time you go on holiday

    1. Benoit Vanhees
      Benoit Vanhees
      4 dni temu

      And by preference a European train :)

  65. This is Kate
    This is Kate
    4 dni temu

    I took two Airbus coming back home from Italy to US. I felt very safe. Lol

    1. Feyd
      Feyd
      Dzień temu

      well, watch out for the 737 max next time.

  66. Tenshi
    Tenshi
    5 dni temu

    Capitalism at its finest.

    1. Executiva Crypto
      Executiva Crypto
      2 dni temu

      Fly with a sukhoi super jet 100 on russia then, lol

  67. 유소영
    유소영
    5 dni temu

    Why do we keep letting U.S. take advantage of the rest of the world. If this happened in U.S. and if the victims were American? It would have brought the company down.

  68. OneGuyOnAScooter
    OneGuyOnAScooter
    5 dni temu

    Let the record show that greed and envy for money and success can cause terrible accidents and huge loss of life.

  69. Travis Phillips
    Travis Phillips
    5 dni temu

    Hmmm I’ve seen another video that goes over exactly everything you just said. Weird

  70. JLUMINADO
    JLUMINADO
    5 dni temu

    In my personal opinion which more than likely would never happen is the CEO and everyone else that gave thr ok, should get fired and see criminal charges immediately, the FAA should have an internal investigation for not looking further into it than just taking Boeing's own certifications and again it'll never happen but I would have them scrap all 737 max 8 planes immediately. The worst part about it is that what ever they decide to do, we don't actually know what kind of planes we're risking our lives getting into. It's sad.

  71. hampala tacklebox
    hampala tacklebox
    5 dni temu

    Video subtitles: how the killing machine born

    1. hampala tacklebox
      hampala tacklebox
      4 dni temu

      MI6 DC10: old killing machine

    2. MI6
      MI6
      4 dni temu

      DC10: am I a joke to you

  72. csjaugiedog
    csjaugiedog
    5 dni temu

    @4:28 "The pilots continued to fight with the MCAS" Continued?? Why? The battle with MCAS never should have happened. FAILURE #1 They diverted their attention away from FLYING THE AIRPLANE. If they had simply turned off electric pitch trim and concentrated on a KNOWN PITCH AND POWER SETTING, the crash would not have happened! NEVER deviate from basic aircraft control. Pitch trim was changing uncommanded. The only way that's possible is with the electric trim system. @23:22, They knew something was wrong with pitch trim, yet they allowed the problem to continue while wasting precious time consulting the manual. Many situations can and do occur that demand a purely instinctive and automatic response. This was one of those situations MCAS did not kill those people...the pilots did!

  73. I got my eyes on U
    I got my eyes on U
    5 dni temu

    THEY KEEP ON MAKING JET ENGINES MORE AND MORE BETTER BUT NOT ONE HAVE NEVER TRIED TO BUILD AN ENGINE FOR AIRPLANES THAT DONT STALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE? THEN HOW COME ROCKET ENGINES DONT STALL GOING UP AND PASSING ALL LAYERS OF OUR ATMOSPHERE?

  74. Ashton Manivanh At gaming
    Ashton Manivanh At gaming
    5 dni temu

    3:33 no MCAS means “MAY CRASH ANY SECOND”

  75. David Henderson
    David Henderson
    5 dni temu

    The corny music track is not only irrelevant but detracts from the credibility of an otherwise good report.

  76. Andrej Passco
    Andrej Passco
    5 dni temu

    so instead change put new wheels they decide to control the plane over one sensor.. Great idea

  77. ROET
    ROET
    5 dni temu

    If its a Boeing ,i am not going!🤗

    1. Scary
      Scary
      Dzień temu

      As far as its 737 max iam good

    2. Blue gone crazy! // TheBlueBallG
      Blue gone crazy! // TheBlueBallG
      3 dni temu

      ROET what about Boeing 747?

  78. MrCliffda3rd
    MrCliffda3rd
    5 dni temu

    Yep I'd rather fly in an A320 or older 737. At least they'll get to my destination.

    1. This is Kate
      This is Kate
      4 dni temu

      MrCliffda3rd love a320 and a330

  79. CXensation
    CXensation
    6 dni temu

    Boeing has become too big a company. They dont think they need to be responsible for human lives anymore. Lets beat them out of market, dont fly Boeing.

  80. Agus Suryaputra
    Agus Suryaputra
    6 dni temu

    with this fault design I must check type of the plane i use for traveling. i will never using this 737 MAX plane. and I think 737 MAX must be grounded permanent.

    1. AHKira
      AHKira
      5 dni temu

      Very good attitude you have! 737 max is a irresponsible product.

  81. ZeekielGames
    ZeekielGames
    6 dni temu

    That is sad. Boeing probably didn’t expect this *MCAS* system to fail, and thus it came unexpectedly that the planes were crashing. Disappointed...

  82. CrossChannelFairy
    CrossChannelFairy
    6 dni temu

    How is it a computer 'bug' when it's code that was written for a specific purpose?

    1. Bill Olsen
      Bill Olsen
      4 dni temu

      The code was probably ok, it was auto programmed to kick in on the basis of information from only one sensor aboard the aircraft, which is unheard of in this day & age. It should be done on the basis of 2 or 3 different sensors, but that would have delayed introduction of the new airliner. Criminal behavior at Boeing, and how did they ever think they could get by with it? Maybe Boeing is now run by a bunch of slick suits with new MBA's in their pockets instead of aircraft engineers like it was for years.

  83. PlanesRkool
    PlanesRkool
    6 dni temu

    Everyone points fingers at MCAS. The MCAS did its job. The sensors or lack of sensors did not.

    1. Agus Suryaputra
      Agus Suryaputra
      6 dni temu

      MCAS just small things,the big thing is fault design of the plane. 737 cant accomodate bigger engine,but boeing force it to put that engine,to save time and money to compete with airbus.

  84. Jack Frost
    Jack Frost
    6 dni temu

    You also have to blame the airlines because they wanted to save money on fuel even after the pilots warned them something was wrong with the new engines

  85. DBR00
    DBR00
    6 dni temu

    I normally hate background music in these videos but yours was soothing and somber in respect for the passengers killed.

  86. adeleke abbey
    adeleke abbey
    6 dni temu

    Ignorance and greed are relatives,Boeing:good night,Airbus:good morning

  87. kingcarcas1349
    kingcarcas1349
    6 dni temu

    I know somebody who worked with somebody that used to work at Boeing and at their new job they were telling them stuff like "we never tested things so damn much at Boeing like you guys want to" and then..............................

  88. Victor Wanstreet
    Victor Wanstreet
    6 dni temu

    plane is perfectly safe it was pilot error

  89. mack
    mack
    6 dni temu

    So all Boeing had to do was increase the ground clearance on the 737 to accommodate for the larger engine and the two crashes may not have happened. How can Boeing guarantee the software update will not crash during operation.

  90. Stacy Faulkner
    Stacy Faulkner
    6 dni temu

    Inexperienced pilots is the reason for crash. Bottom line.

    1. johan petersson
      johan petersson
      6 dni temu

      No. Corporates who cut corners for money is the reason. Period.

  91. Mark Anthony
    Mark Anthony
    6 dni temu

    Who is the fa$ narrating?

  92. leule dawit
    leule dawit
    6 dni temu

    We should give up on the Boeing 737 max 8

  93. PyroRomancer
    PyroRomancer
    6 dni temu

    >software overriding conscious pilots

  94. Boris Karloff
    Boris Karloff
    7 dni temu

    Gone in 600 seconds

  95. Boris Karloff
    Boris Karloff
    7 dni temu

    Boeing boeing...gone

  96. Boris Karloff
    Boris Karloff
    7 dni temu

    Kill one person...go to jail Kill a lot of people....a statistical blip to your profits.

  97. will edwards
    will edwards
    7 dni temu

    Is background music really necessary? It makes the dialogue hard to hear.

  98. Boater on Tour
    Boater on Tour
    7 dni temu

    It's bad that there must crash a second plane before something was done.

  99. Greenvolksi
    Greenvolksi
    7 dni temu

    Shocked. Did Boeing seriously fix bad flight dynamics with a bit of software and a sensor??? Is this the same company that designed and built the Jumbo and the Dreamliner?? Someone or some people in Boeing need to go to prison.

  100. Nick M
    Nick M
    7 dni temu

    They had no left phalange. So sad.